INDIO, Calif. â About an hour after the War and Treaty burned down Aprilâs Stagecoach festival with a scorching rendition of âThe Star-Spangled Banner,â the married country duoâs Michael Trotter Jr. and Tanya Trotter are cooling down in an air-conditioned trailer as they ponder a question: Who sang the greatest national anthem of all time?
âTo me, it has to be Whitney Houston,â Tanya says, to which Michael nods in agreement. âThereâs a Mt. Rushmore, though,â he adds. âNo. 2, Chris Stapleton. No. 3 â this is debatable â I think Jennifer Hudson.â He runs a comb through his hair as he considers a fourth. âKelly Clarkson does a really good job. BeyoncĂ© does a great job.â
No room for Marvin Gaye, who performed a famously sultry interpretation at 1983âs NBA All-Star Game? Michael crinkles up his face.
âOh, thatâs the worst version,â he says.
âWe should not go on the record saying that,â Tanya advises.
Michael: âIâm not afraid. Iâll go on the record.â
Tanya: âHere we go.â
Michael: âListen, I donât want to fâ to the national anthem.â
Tanya: âOh, lord.â
âI want to think of the service and of war and how me and my battle buddies fought for freedom,â says Michael, who began writing songs as an Army soldier stationed in Baghdad during the Iraq war. âSo, Marvin Gaye â I just donât like it.â He grins. âBut thatâs OK. If Tanya wants to do it to his version, hell, yeah â letâs do it. Now, itâs the best version ever.â
Two decades after Michaelâs experience in Iraq, the War and Treaty has carved out a space as one of the most exciting live acts in American roots music, with a catalog of wise and passionate songs about loyalty, faith and romance and a boisterous stage show that evokes memories of Ike and Tina Turner. In February, the Nashville-based couple â Michael is 42, Tanya, 50 â were nominated for best new artist at the 66th Grammy Awards (despite having released their fourth studio album, âLoverâs Game,â in 2023).
Zach Bryan recruited the Trotters to appear on his smash self-titled LP from last year, then asked the duo to open for him this month at Crypto.com Arena. And on July 10, theyâll return to Southern California to play SoFi Stadium with no less an institution than the Rolling Stones.
âItâs absolute magic, the two of their voices together,â says country star Nate Smith, whose new EP, âThrough the Smoke,â features a harmony-drenched collaboration with the War and Treaty. Smith remembers seeing the duo perform âThatâs How Love Is Madeâ at Novemberâs Country Music Assn. Awards and being brought to tears by the intensity of the emotion in their singing. âWeâre talking beyond goosebumps,â he adds. âI was literally bawling â like, âWhat is wrong with me right now?ââ
Indeed, the Trotters have become reliable showstoppers at Nashvilleâs many televised awards events, including the Academy of Country Music Honors (where they paid tribute to Stapleton last year with a sexy-churchy take on his song âColdâ) and CMTâs recent âSmashing Glassâ special (where they got Patti LaBelle fanning herself as they belted LaBelle and Michael McDonaldâs classic âOn My Ownâ).
The format is an ideal showcase for the War and Treatyâs sweaty blend of country, rock, gospel and R&B: To see the Trotters lock eyes and voices is to believe them. But according to the couple, itâs also the only available remedy to a vexing problem.
âPeople talk all the time: âTheyâre just awards-show babies,ââ Michael says. âYep, youâre right â we are. Because the reality of the situation is that weâre not getting played on country radio. So weâve got to treat TV like you would radio and try to get on every awards show we can. And when we get on there, weâre gonna try and do the same thing every single time, which is to blow the roof off until people understand that weâre here to stay.â
Even in an era defined by streaming, country radio retains much of the genreâs hitmaking power. And though the War and Treaty are part of a growing number of Black voices in Nashville â think also of Kane Brown and Mickey Guyton and Brittney Spencer â playlists remain thoroughly dominated by white men, including those visiting from other styles: Compare the immediate No. 1 showing by Post Maloneâs âI Had Some Helpâ on Billboardâs Country Airplay chart to BeyoncĂ©âs peak at No. 33 with âTexas Hold âEm,â from the much-discussed âCowboy Carterâ album that sheâs said was inspired by the country industryâs cold shoulder. (One of BeyoncĂ©âs collaborators, Shaboozey, may have an exception on his hands with âA Bar Song (Tipsy),â which is steadily rising at country radio.)
Asked if they feel welcome at a festival like Stagecoach â other acts on this yearâs bill included Morgan Wallen, Hardy, Jelly Roll and Miranda Lambert â Tanya says, âDefinitely,â while Michael reflects for a moment. âI donât think itâs enough to feel welcome,â he says. âThereâs something else to feel, which is to feel together. And when you have artists standing onstage yelling about redneck culture, you know theyâre not talking to you. So I think what we have to do as a culture is we have to stop laying out the welcome mat and really start extending the hand. Thereâs a difference.â
As a committed purveyor of songs about love â not about the pain of its absence but about its promise of spiritual fulfillment â Michael acknowledges that the War and Treaty is out of step with most modern country music, which he says is âbased on heartbreak and sâtalking.â He laughs. âItâs the truth: Morganâs main song is âLast Nightââ â Wallenâs chart-topper about a coupleâs drunken breakup â âand then Hardyâs out here singing about âI woke up on the wrong side of the truck bed.â I look at that and Iâm like, âIs this where War and Treaty fits? Is this where we show that thereâs still a market for art that focuses on love?ââ
As he and Tanya chat in their trailer, theyâre preparing their outfits for a second performance on one of Stagecoachâs smaller side stages. On the main stage earlier, Tanya wore a red-fringed bodysuit she describes as an homage to one of her âfashion gods,â Diana Ross; Michael wore matching red-and-black pants and a vest that he says nodded to a couple of heroes of his own, pro wrestlers âMacho Manâ Randy Savage and âStone Coldâ Steve Austin.
Is Michael a big wrestling guy?
âHeâs a fanatic,â Tanya says.
âAll the way,â Michael confirms. Then he warns me against delving into the topic if thereâs anything else Iâd like to leave time to discuss with him and his wife. âTrust me, we need to move on now,â he says, smiling.
Adds Tanya: âPlease, letâs not open this box.â
The Trotters, whoâve been married since 2011 and have a 13-year-old son, sing and write with the familiarity of longtime partners.
In âThe Best That I Have,â a simmering slow jam from âLoverâs Game,â Tanya joins a lover on the couch with ice cream and reruns of âThe Golden Girls.â And onstage, the two communicate with an unspoken intimacy, signaling each other to take a vocal line or to hold back with just a look or a touch on the wrist.
âMe and Tanya, we share time and space in every way,â Michael says.
The two formed the War and Treaty in 2014 after each had learned to play on their own. âFreaked out,â as he puts it, by the brutal reality of the war in Iraq, Michael would soothe himself by playing a piano his fellow soldiers had found in the basement of one of Saddam Husseinâs palaces; eventually, he started writing songs to memorialize fallen members of his unit. âAnd that brought so much healing and resolution to the troops that they decided that would be my new role,â he says.
At one point on Stagecoachâs main stage, Michael asked how many veterans were in the crowd; not many folks made their presence known â fewer, certainly, than would have, say, two decades ago. Does he think about that?
âI do, and I know why,â he says after the performance. âIn the past 20-something years, weâve gone through a strong love-hate relationship with the military. Our leaders have done a poor job in protecting service members, because now Americans look at service members as based on whoâs president at the time. We forget that men and women are raising their hand to fight for freedom â losing their lives and their limbs and their sanity. Thereâs no emphasis on their service. Artists donât give a sâ anymore.
âToby Keith was dripping in the red, white and blue,â he says of the late country star known for his patriotic songs and his USO tours, âand he was very sad to leave that legacy to no one. So me and Tanya, we kind of fill that void.â
Tanya got an early boost as a singer when she appeared in the 1993 movie âSister Act 2: Back in the Habit,â which featured a scene in which she and Lauryn Hill sang âHis Eye Is on the Sparrow.â She went on to release an R&B album the next year and later signed with Sean âDiddyâ Combsâ Bad Boy label, though a planned LP never materialized. (Asked about the sexual abuse several women have accused Combs of in recent months, Tanya says, âI donât have any comment, only because I have a gag order. I canât talk about it legally.â)
How does singing country music differ from singing R&B? âYou know, I never realized that there was a difference,â Tanya says. âWhen I would see Patti LaBelle and Dolly Parton together on television, they were both flamboyant, they both had red nails. It wasnât until I got into the business of music that theyâre like, âThis is this, and this is that.ââ
The Trotters have continued to blur those genre lines in a series of singles theyâve released this year, including the lush âStealing a Kiss,â which calls to mind the psychedelic soul music of the 1970s, and the bluegrass-steeped âLeads Me Home.â âCalled You By Your Name,â meanwhile, is a blistering gospel-rock rave-up with blaring New Orleans-style brass.
The couple have tentative plans to release an album early next year, though theyâre booked solid on the road for the rest of 2024, including festival dates and opening gigs for the likes of Bryan, Lyle Lovett and Gary Clark Jr. (with whom theyâll appear Aug. 21 at the Hollywood Bowl).
Michael says he views the job as a support act âwith honor and reverence,â but he also admits, âI feel drained from it sometimes. Iâd be lying if I didnât say Iâm wondering when will it be our turn?â
He knows that Nashville rewards the kind of sustained hard work put in by Jelly Roll and Lainey Wilson, both of whom said yes to seemingly every invitation before finally leveling up over the last couple of years. But he also knows how many mediocre songs about trucks and beer are filling the country airwaves instead of tunes by the War and Treaty. To keep motivated, he reminds himself of what music once did for him as a veteran experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder.
âYou have your moments where youâre fâing tired and you donât feel like trying to get a crowd to wave their little hands,â he says. âBut Tanya and I, weâve got a song that somebody might need to hear that will cause them to want to live another day. Because our whole heart is in it, we have no choice. Thatâs what keeps me going.â